Marantz - Denon 13.1 - AV8805, AVC-X8500H

[Kostas Kefalas]

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

　The main relevant reference is as follows:

　　13.2 channel preamplifier

　　13.2 Channel decoding processing and pre-output

　　Dolby Atmos (7.1.6 or 9.1.4), DTS: X, Auro 3D built-in

　　New 2 ADI Griffin Lite DSP

　　Equipped with 32bir AKM4490 DAC decoder chip

　　7 + 1 input / 3 output HDMI (3D / eARC)

　　HDCP2.2-HDMI2.0a

　　Support Audyssey MultEQ XT32 sound field calibration, Audyssey App support

　　WiFi, BT, AirPlay, RS232 and IP control

　　Internet radio, Phono MM

　　Marantz HDAM current feedback circuit

　　Copper chassis, toroidal transformer

　　Aruo-3D (13.1) DTS Virtual: X (Upgraded)

　　Built-in wireless Multi Room HEOS

　　eARC, Dolay Vision, HLG

　　Built-in wireless Multi Room HEOS system

　　Support Audyssey Remote App (paid download)

 

[spylab]

Τα μεγαλυτερα av forums στον κοσμο εχουν το link αυτης εδω της σελιδας !

Η Ιέρεια της marantz και του auro εχει γινει ο Kefalas


Marantz AV8805 15.2 XLR Pre/Pro στο www.avsforum.com
Hi,

And here are the details of the new and long awaited Marantz AV8805 pre/pro :

15.2 XLR with a 13.2 channels processing capacity, which in Atmos can drive 7.2.6 or 9.2.4 configurations.

Audyssey MultEQ Editor App compatible.

Origin : https://www.avsite.gr/forum/threads/...essing.160716/

Και

Marantz AV8805 15.2 XLR Pre/Pro - DV & Audyssey App στο www.homecinema-fr.com
» 01 Nov 2017 6:11

Bonjour,

Le voile est désormais levé quant aux caractéristiques du nouveau processeur Marantz AV8805, remplaçant le vénérable Marantz 8802A.

C'est un appareil doté de 15.2 sorties, avec une capacité de processing de 13.2 canaux en même temps, permettant de piloter des configurations Atmos du type 7.2.6 ou 9.2.4.

... même si le 9.2.6 aurait été parfait...

Il est doté de DACs AKM4490, il est compatible Dolby Vision et saura mettre en oeuvre la nouvelle applet Audyssey MultEQ Editor.

Hugo

Info origine : https://www.avsite.gr/forum/threads/mar ... ng.160716/

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

Spoiler

οταν λεω οτι ειναι δωρο δεν με πιστευεται

 

[melina]

Ήρθε η ώρα να μπει συνδρομή σε καποια τοπικ

 

[Zizik]

Η ιδιοκτησία συμφωνεί έμαθα.

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

Denon AVC-X8500H with HDMI 2.1 and 8K support presented


Denon has introduced the AVC-X8500H Premium AV Amplifier with HDMI 2.1, 8K and 10K support. The new features are only available after a firmware update in 2018.

Sound United invited media representatives to Sanya (China) on October 18, 2017 to present their latest developments in audio & video processing. The absolute highlight was certainly the announcement of the AVC-X8500H. Denon opens a new Ultra Premium segment and now offers an option to even the most demanding home theater enthusiast. Denon himself promises an update to HDMI 2.1 with 8K and 10K in 2018 for the new Premium AV amplifier AVC-X8500H . All the advantages of HDMI 2.1 with eARC,processing of dynamic metadata and dynamic adjustment of the frame rate (for gaming)should be available with it. Since the new HDMI standard is not yet officially adopted, the new interface may not yet be advertised for new products.

HDMI 2.1 update in 2018
On delivery of the AVC-X8500H, this 4K supports 50 / 60Hz signals with full 4: 4: 4 color subsampling via the 8 HDMI inputs and 3 HDMI outputs (all with HDCP 2.2). All relevant HDR formats including HDR10, HLG (Hybrid-Log Gamma) and Dolby Visionare supported. With the HDMI 2.1 update is also the use of the new HDR10 + possible.

In addition to the current HDMI version, impressed especially the audio section of the AVC-X8500H. Dolby Atmos, DTS: X and Auro-3D can be used in a 13.2-channel environment. Seven 2-channel digital audio converters with 32-bit and 768 kHz are available. A total of 15 speaker connections (+2 subwoofers) are available. 3D sound formats can be used in a 7.1.6 or 9.1.4 configuration. With Auro-3D the full 13.1 configuration can be used.

Integrated HEOS multiroom streaming
We were also able to use the preliminary information to locate the MultEQ Audyssey XT32 surround sound calibration, integrated WLAN (2.4 GHz / 5 GHz) , Ethernet ports, USB ports, Apple Airplay, and ISF certification . In addition, the model has a 4K / 60p video upscaler and integrated HEOS multiroom music streaming . The nominal power per channel is given as 150 watts. The presentation still speaks of 210 watts. However, it is likely to be the maximum performance in a smaller surround setup.

The AVC-X8500H is an AV amplifier and not an AV receiver whose model name usually starts with AVR at Denon. The only difference between the two variants is the missing FM radio. Otherwise, the AVC-X8500H continues to be able to process and forward current and future sound and image formats. Anyone who worries about the missing radio feature now can be reassured. Thousands of channels are available via internet radio.

AVC-X8500H Price & Availability
Additional information about the AVC-X8500H is expected in the coming weeks. The model will come in the spring of 2018 for around 3,000 to 3,500 euros in the trade. As usual, the AV amplifier is available in silver and black. Whether the model will appear exactly in this configuration in Europe, is not yet known, but dealers already give the go-ahead for the AVC-X8500H.

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

Marantz AV8805 with 13.2 channel signal processing and Auro 3D presented (CES 2018)

Marantz is using the CES 2018 Las Vegas framework to showcase their new AV8805 high-end AV preamps. The AV8805 supports 13.2 channel signal processing and is equipped for any multi-channel audio format - even for Auro 3D. The AV8805 will be available from February 2018 at an MSRP of € 3,999.00 from authorized retailers.

Marantz wants to offer with its new multi-channel receiver uncompromising processing of audio and image data. The device is specially designed for use with high quality external speakers. At a price point of 3.999, - EUR, it would be a sin to attach a cheap speaker package for 300, - €. In the black chassis, AK4490 slumber 32-bit D / A converter units on all channels for high-quality audio processing. Also, 3D formats such as Dolby Atmos, DTS: X and even Auro 3D (via firmware update in spring 2018) benefited from the D / A converter units. The Marantz AV8805 allows a maximum of 7.1.6 or 9.1.4 sound setups or full 13.1 Auro 3D sound.

For high-end performance, there are 15.2 channel XLR preamp outputs that provide external powered speakers with the best sound quality. Before audio signals are routed through the XLR outputs, they are processed via Marantz HDAM modules and, for example, adapted to high noise levels.

4K / 60p videos with HDR & Dolby Vision
The video section of the AV8805 supports all current and relevant standards. HDCP 2.2 protected 4K signals can be played back via the High Dynamic Range (HDR10, HLG, Dolby Vision) HDMI inputs and outputs and up to 60 frames per second - all at full 4: 4: 4 color resolution in the BT.2020 color space. Since we are in the ultra-high-end range, an ISF video calibration may not be missing.

In total, the user has 8 HDMI inputs (one on the front) and three HDMI outputs. For conventional SD / HD video sources, a 4K upscaler is also available. With a future update, it is even possible to deliver audio signals via an HDMI connection via eARC (enhanced audio return channel) to the receiver.

Stream happily wirelessly
The AV preamplifier AV8805 must not only show its best side in films and series. Even the daily enjoyment of music should be best satisfied by the flagship amplifier. Of course, the user can play his music sources directly through the countless connection options of the AV8805, or you can use Bluetooth and AirPlay to wirelessly transfer music. Music streaming apps such as Spotify Connect, Amazon Music, Tidal, Deezer, etc. but also Internet radio are a must in this price range.

HDMI 2.1 via update?
Who puts an AV preamplifier for a mere 3.999, - EUR in the house, of course, does not want that the device in 1-2 years is already outdated. Marantz therefore promises an "upgradable product design" to integrate future technologies via optional hardware and / or software upgrades. Sounds almost as if you have already made provision for the HDMI 2.1 interface.

Price & Availability
"Black is beautiful" - at least in this price segment. The AV8805 is so far only in a black version. Whether a silver model is refilled is not known. Anyone who has saved his Christmas bonus from grandma, who already in February 2018 from 3.999, - EUR (EIA) strike!

Highlights features of the AV8805:

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  • 13.2-channel AV preamplifier with 15.2-channel XLR / RCA pre-outs
    • Enables use with virtually any power amplifier - including Marantz MM8077 - or powered speakers for flexible systems and lavish custom home theater setups
    • Ensures low-noise and interference-free transmission to the power amplifiers
  • Newly developed Marantz HDAM technology on separate boards for all channels
    • Highest fidelity thanks to tonally optimized, discreetly structured Current Feedback pre-stage
    • Separate design ensures extremely high channel separation and excellent signal-to-noise ratio
  • 13.2-channel signal processing with 2 x ADI Griffin DSPs (Dual Core)
    • Full 32-bit signal processing for all channels guarantees high-precision real-time decoding and accurate post-processing
  • Design: Outstanding model construction with extremely stable, copper-coated chassis without unwanted vibrations, an oversized toroidal transformer with a solid aluminum base and extra reinforced topcover
    • High end craftsmanship in your own home theater
    • Optimum shielding from disturbing influences
  • Support for Dolby Atmos (up to 7.1.6 or 9.1.4), DTS: X and Auro-3D (up to 13.1, Auro-3D via free firmware update in spring 2018)
    • Room-filling and immersive 3D sound for every configuration
    • Automatic switching of the preamp outputs depending on the 3D sound format
  • Support for DTS Virtual: X
    • Impressive 3D sound emulation with a classic 2.0, 5.1 or 7.1 speaker setup
  • Powerful 32-bit AK4490 DACs
    • High-quality digital converter units for the clearest and most precise sound in music and movies
  • Support for DSD (2.8 / 5.6MHz), FLAC, ALAC and WAV
    • High-resolution audio streaming for hi-fi enthusiasts, even with gapless playback
  • WLAN integrated with 2.4 GHz / 5 GHz dual band support
    • Improved network stability, especially at high WLAN density
  • Bluetooth, AirPlay
    • Quick coupling and playback of own playlists
  • Wireless HEOS multiroom music streaming
    • Comfortable control options, easy integration of other HEOS components (speakers, soundbars, subwoofer) and virtually unlimited access to online music sources
  • Internet Radio, Spotify Connect, Amazon Music, Tidal, Deezer, Juke !, Napster, Network Audio Streaming
    • Access many popular online music sources via the free HEOS app
  • 4K / 60Hz Full Rate Pass Through, 4: 4: 4 Color Resolution, HDR, BT.2020, Dolby Vision and Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG)
    • Support of current video formats
  • ISF Video Calibration
    • Ready for professional calibration of home theater TVs and projectors
  • Analogous to HDMI conversion and upscaling of conventional SD / HD video sources to 4K at full frame rate
    • Full HD and Ultra HD video quality with existing DVDs and analog sources
  • 8 HDMI inputs (one at the front) with full HDCP 2.2 support, 3 HDMI outputs
    • Advanced connectivity - ready to control a TV and projector in parallel
  • eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel), about future firmware update *
    • Enables object-based audio (Dolby Atmos / DTS: X) via an HDMI connection to the TV or TV apps
  • Audyssey MultEQ XT32, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ
    • Individual and perfect room acoustics correction for every room
  • Audyssey LFC and SubEQ HT
    • LFC keeps powerful but unobtrusive bass in the room at night, Sub-EQ HT allows the perfect tuning of two subwoofers
  • Audyssey MultEQ Editor App (optional and available for a fee in the respective App Stores)
    • Adjust the acoustics and sound in the home theater like the pros
  • Advanced options for Customer Installation (CI) and Smart Homes
    • Support for two additional stereo listening zones, IR inputs / outputs, 12V switch output, RS232 control and Crestron Connected compatibility
  • Color Coded Speaker Connectors, Setup Wizard, Marantz AVR Remote App, HEOS App
    • Fast and easy setup and operation
  • Prepared for voice control via Amazon Alexa (expected from early summer 2018 in Germany / Austria)
    • Basic functions of the AV preamplifier and media selection via voice control in German via Amazon Echo and Echo Dot
  • Upgradeable product design
    • Designing the model allows the integration of new technologies through future optional hardware and / or software upgrades

http://www.4kfilme.de/marantz-av8805-av-vorverstaerker-13-2-kanal/




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https://translate.google.gr/transla...u=https://www.modernhifi.de/denon-avc-x8500h/

 

[Vakis2000]

Μια χαρά είναι ο ταπεινός Γιαμαχάκος μου. Αν θέλω Ωωροματικά χώρου, μπορώ κι από σούπερ μάρκετ.

Ταινίες ακόμα δεν βλέπω, και το ανοίξαμε το θέμα του Ωωρο εδώ σχεδόν τέσσερα χρόνια.

Αν και κάτοχος (προς το παρόν) μάραντζ, δεν δέχομαι την λέξη ταπεινός για μηχάνημα yamaha!
Προσωπικά η σειρά 7 της μαραντζ είναι κάτω από τις σειρές 2,3 της yamaha. Τουλάχιστον σε απτή ποιότητα κατασκευής.

Σε ήχο, άντε ισοδύναμες!

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

με πιανει ενα ριγος μοιλς βλεπω τετοιο σημα εισοδου !!!
...να παω στον γιατρο ;

δεν με βλεπω να μου ξεφευγει

 

[melina]

At a price point of 3.999, - EUR, it would be a sin to attach a cheap speaker package for 300, - €

κρίμα ρε γαμώτο, δεν κάνει για μένα

για να δούμε εκείνο το CH πως θα το φτιάχνουν να παίζει...

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

εγω παλι ενα κεντρικο εκει στο φως μπορω να το βαλω

...οπως επισης και ενα κεντρικο τετοιο για το top(vog)

για 13.1 πρεπει να γκρεμισω τον πισω τοιχο και να βγω στο κενο

Spoiler

θα περιμενω ποτε θα αξιωθει η BW να βγαλει ηχεια με κλιση για τα HSR - HSL

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κρίμα ρε γαμώτο, δεν κάνει για μένα

για να δούμε εκείνο το CH πως θα το φτιάχνουν να παίζει...

θα ειναι πληρες πλεον το auro3d με το 13.1....αν και παει ως 15.1 ...λες !!!

 

[stathis]

με πιανει ενα ριγος μοιλς βλεπω τετοιο σημα εισοδου !!!
...να παω στον γιατρο ;

δεν με βλεπω να μου ξεφευγει

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Το TrueHD είναι καλύτερο δλδ η βάση του Atmos!

εγω παλι ενα κεντρικο εκει στο φως μπορω να το βαλω

Oικονομία στη φωτό μας κάνεις καλέ

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

Το TrueHD είναι καλύτερο δλδ η βάση του Atmos!

η βαση ειναι σε ολα τα forma ιδια ....τι εννοεις μισοπολυκαναλε ;

 

[stathis]

η βαση ειναι σε ολα τα forma ιδια ....τι εννοεις μισοπολυκαναλε ;

TrueHD + Atmos
ΜΑ ΗD + auro3d

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

βαλε και pcm + auro 3d

ολα = pcm

και 24/96 μονο σε auro3D δεν μπορει το TrueHD + Atmos
...ποιο ειναι καλυτερο ;

 

[spylab]

τι εννοεις μισοπολυκαναλε ;

Αυτους με τα λειψα συστηματα που δινουν το κακο παραδειγμα δεν τους μπορω καθολου .

 

[melina]

θα ειναι πληρες πλεον το auro3d με το 13.1....αν και παει ως 15.1 ...λες !!!

και με 10(5 κάτω - 5 πάνω...άντε και ένα vog για το τσακίρ κέφι να πάμε στα 11).1 είμαι εντάξει εγώ, το CH είναι το κρίσιμο στοιχείο και περιμένω με αγωνία τα πρώτα reviews επί αυτού του θέματος.
Το θεωρώ πολύ δύσκολο στην υλοποίηση του, ειδικά με τα συνήθη εργαλεία EQ που έχουν οι AVR.

 

[Kostas Kefalas]

Αυτους με τα λειψα συστηματα που δινουν το κακο παραδειγμα δεν τους μπορω καθολου .

κατι θα κανουν και αυτοι καποια στιγμη...απλα πρεπει να αλλαξουν ηχεια - av
....τοτε θα δουν το φως το αληθινον

και με 10(5 κάτω - 5 πάνω...άντε και ένα vog για το τσακίρ κέφι να πάμε στα 11).1 είμαι εντάξει εγώ, το CH είναι το κρίσιμο στοιχείο και περιμένω με αγωνία τα πρώτα reviews επί αυτού του θέματος.
Το θεωρώ πολύ δύσκολο στην υλοποίηση του, ειδικά με τα συνήθη εργαλεία EQ που έχουν οι AVR.

ναι...ενα 11.1 ειναι οκ για το 80%

οσον αφορα την διαταξη auro3d σε ισοσταθμιση θα ειναι η εξης.....
...μιλαω για avr και pre/pro marantz-denon και οχι για pre/pro trinnov - datasat κ.λ.π.

1)ισοσταθμιση ανα καναλι (οπως τωρα)σαν αναφορα.
2)ισοσταθμιση οπως θελεις μετα την κυρια(αναφορα) ανα ζευγος (λογικο)
LR - SR - SB - HLR - HSR
3)μεμονομενα για C - HC - TOP - SUB

οποτε μπορεις να διαμορφωσεις την ισοσταθμιση εκεινη για να φερεις καλο αποτελεσμα στα μεμονομενα ηχεια αλλα και στα ζευγαρια..
...εξαλλου απο την πρωτη ισοσταθμιση το αποτελεσμα ειναι ιδιο για ολα τα ηχεια ....
παντα μιλαμε για ενα καλοστημενο setup με σειρας ηχεια και οχι οτι ναναι....

βασικα το HC ειναι αρκετα χρησιμο σε μεγαλες οθονες ανω των 2.5μ
....τοχει και το dts-x
π.χ εμενα μπορει και να μην κανει δουλεια στα 2μ οθονη που εχω...εσενα ναι
...αλλα θα παρεις το ιδιο...
βασικα δεν προοριζεται για φωνες, αλλα θα παιξει και καποιες οταν χρειαστει